{"id":14251,"date":"2025-05-20T03:56:16","date_gmt":"2025-05-19T20:56:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/loudhdtv.com\/?p=14251"},"modified":"2025-05-20T03:56:16","modified_gmt":"2025-05-19T20:56:16","slug":"milos-sarcev-asks-bob-cicherillo-who-the-f-are-you","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/loudhdtv.com\/?p=14251","title":{"rendered":"Milos Sarcev Asks Bob Cicherillo: &#8216;Who the F*** are you?&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Dennis James was joined by compadres Milos Sarcev and Chris Cormier on Episode 232 of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=0km1cB8gwg8\">The Menace Podcast,<\/a> along with special guest Bob Cicherillo, and the sparks soon flew in a heated debate about how competitive bodybuilding rounds are judged.<\/p>\n<p>The first ever Open Division competition at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.muscleandfitness.com\/flexonline\/flex-news\/derek-lunsford-wins-historic-2025-pittsburgh-pro-in-epic-tiebreaker-against-nick-walker\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">2025 Pittsburgh Pro saw a final that was almost too close to call between Nick Walker and Derek Lunsford<\/a>. A such, the athletes, judges, and fans are still dissecting the way that bodybuilding shows are judged. And, with \u201cThe Voice of Bodybuilding,\u201d on the show, tensions soon flared over what the judges are looking for exactly. Cicherillo is not an active judge himself, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.muscleandfitness.com\/flexonline\/flex-news\/how-bob-cicherillo-became-the-voice-of-bodybuilding\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">but as an emcee and commentator<\/a>, he has proposed his own reforms over the years and understands the judging process perhaps as much as anyone in the industry.<\/p>\n<p>But it appears that the bodybuilders themselves are often confused about what is being asked of them. This was illustrated in a fiery debate when Sarcev expressed his disgruntlement over the fact that the symmetry round was phased out in the late \u201990s because he felt it offered an additional chance to show the body from all angles and get a score for what he saw as an essential round.<\/p>\n<p>Contrary to popular belief, Sarcev explained that the symmetry round was not only about symmetry, but it also took overall muscularity and shape into account. The confusion over what was required in the symmetry round is prevalent in the currently active rounds, it seems.<\/p>\n<h2>All Bodybuilding Rounds are Muscularity Rounds, Explains Bob Cicherillo<\/h2>\n<p>\u201cI can only speak for myself, right now,\u201d said host Dennis James. \u201cI turned pro in \u201998, right? And back then they still had the three guy callouts, and they still did the symmetry rounds \u2026 and I, to this day, didn\u2019t know the info that you just gave me. I thought the symmetry round was based just off the symmetry that I have, the proportion that I bring, and I thought the posing round is for my creative posing routine and showing my body, hiding my weaknesses.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But Cicherillo confirmed that this belief was wrong, and Sarcev piled on. \u201cHow could anybody think that (the) posing round is for posing and choreography, your dancing ability?\u201d he asked The Menace. Still, this is a misconception held by many athletes and fans. \u201cI never understood how Dorian (Yates) can beat Flex (Wheeler), or Shawn (Ray) in the symmetry round, even though what you just said, it still doesn\u2019t make sense to me,\u201d said James.<\/p>\n<p>Cicherillo clarified that this can be explained by the fact that just like all other rounds, it is still about overall muscle. \u201cThey\u2019re all muscularity rounds,\u201d said Cicherillo, concurring that the naming of rounds, just like <a href=\"https:\/\/www.muscleandfitness.com\/flexonline\/training\/bodybuilding-competition-the-posing-rounds\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the posing round<\/a>, seems to suggest that there is an emphasis on the pose rather than the muscle. \u201cThis was the very idea of why I went to the table with them and said, \u2018look, especially with the posing round, if you\u2019re not gonna judge the posing, don\u2019t call it a posing round. Just call it round number three,\u201d said the Olympia host.<\/p>\n<p>But this statement had Sarcev\u2019s blood boiling. \u201cYou again say you came with a proposal to take the posing round, who the f**** are you?\u201d asked Sarcev, infuriated that as he sees it, \u201cThe Voice\u201d was speaking for himself rather than the athletes. \u201cYou make it sounds like I never talked to anybody,\u201d retorted Cicherillo. \u201cI talked to plenty of athletes over the years,\u201d adding that many of the most successful Olympians could not have won if they were purely judged by the labeling of the rounds.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, he said that the competition was about muscularity at its core, noting that in his opinion, Nick Walker had better symmetry at the 2025 Pittsburgh Pro, and yet he lost out to Derek Lunsford in the end. \u201cBut Derek won on the better shape,\u201d said Sarcev, suggesting that some aspects of the competition still need to be given a score for transparency. \u201cI\u2019m all for it,\u201d agreed Cicherillo. \u201cYou took it out!\u201d bellowed Sarcev. \u201cMilos, watch your blood pressure,\u201d pleaded James.<\/p>\n<p>Some debates are destined to go on forever, it seems.<\/p>\n<p>To <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/0km1cB8gwg8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">watch the sparks fly in episode 232<\/a>, where the panel discussed other aspects of judging and Nick Walker\u2019s prospects of winning a Mr Olympia title, see below.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"MILOS TO BOB &quot;WHO THE F* ARE YOU?\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/0km1cB8gwg8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-3711241968723425\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.muscleandfitness.com\/flexonline\/flex-news\/milos-sarcev-asks-bob-cicherillo-who-the-f-are-you\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dennis James was joined by compadres Milos Sarcev and Chris Cormier on Episode 232 of The Menace Podcast, along with special guest Bob Cicherillo, and the sparks soon flew in a heated debate about how competitive bodybuilding rounds are judged. 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